This really should be called “The good, the bad and the mediocre ”
Spoilers ahead for anyone who hasn’t seen the episode


The final goodbyes to the fallen from the battle for Winterfell had a few touching moments. Sansa pinning a Stark emblem on Theon was the most touching moment. Acknowledgement of the influence of the Starks and how he returned to help them was appropriate.

Tormund at the feast! Once again, Tormund comes through providing some comic relief yet baring a terrible reality to Dany. As much as she helped to save the North, she has yet to earn the loyalty of the Northerners.

Dany legitimatizing Gendry. Many of us anticipated this would occur. A somewhat good move that could help to boost her rep in the south, the Northerners don’t really give two damns about Stormsend. Still, it was good for the best rower in Westeros.
Gendry’s proposal to Arya - I sat watching that thinking “that’s not me”, repeating that line until she said it. As an Arya fan girl, part of me wanted her to accept but it would have been a denial of her character so I’m glad she stayed true to herself. Poor Gendry.....

The Battle planning for the attack against KL was realistic to a point however no one taking Euron into consideration was just plain idiotic. Didn’t Euron destroy most of Dany’s fleet courtesy her pact with Highgarden and the Iron Born once already? Weren’t scorpion bolts used before? Seems these folks have some severe short term memory loss. Dany seems to have never heard the story about Aegon’s assault on Harrenhal in attempting to avenge Rhaegal. She may have never read the books Jorah gave her as a wedding present.
Not having any lookouts for Dany’s small fleet returning to Dragonstone which carried the Unsullied, one of the greatest military forces on Palentos, just seems illogical. After losing one of her children and have been shot at before, common sense might dictate that Dany take a more circuitous flight path. Guess the show wanted to even up the odds and punch us in the gut again.

Dany and Jon’s discussion of his parentage and the succession. Two people who have spent a LOT of time together over the past months and are in love have the shortest discussion on record about how to move forward together. Jon broods about it while Dany gives him an option she should have realized would not be acceptable to him. Props to Jon for a momentary freak out when making out with his aunt. I hope that’s what it was. Everything we know about Jon proves he would have happily taken a backseat and let her rule if they married. Is our dragon queen that obsessed with power? This would have been a perfect opportunity to “break the wheel” and allow someone without a penis be in charge.

Sansa blabbing the “secret”. We knew this was going to happen. In the very first season we hear Jon & Arya, in unison” say “ Don’t tell Sansa”.
To a great extent I applaud and respect Sansa for wanting the North to be an independent kingdom and I’m not the biggest Sansa er in the fandom. She suffered quite a lot in the show to get her freedom and that of the North. At least she told Tyrion which was a smart move. Yet she shows little to no gratitude to Dany for helping in defeating the Others. To some extent, she is practicing back stabbing almost as good as Cersie and Little Finger. Sansa is playing the scenarios put in her head but not considering a marriage alliance that would provide the North with the next best thing to total freedom. This also proves why Ned never telling Cat that Jon was his nephew was extremely justified.

The death of our beloved Missandei was heartbreaking. To some extent, it was necessary. As tragic as it was, we needed the loss of an important person that impacted a major character. Props to Missandei for going out like a boss, making her final word “dracarys”. There is a special place in heaven just for her utterance of that one word. It seems like the show is putting Dany on a “mad Targaryen” path.

Varys - finally we see him to start planting seeds again instead of sitting around like a bump on a log. It may get him toasted but he is being honest with what he believes. And he will make his opinion known to the dragon queen before she roasts him. Or maybe she lets him live and he dies at the age of 80 with a belly full of wine and a woman’s mouth around his - oh - never mind......

Jon - where can I start. Your honor and brooding about it are keeping you off the right path. You may love Dany but at heart, you are a man of the North. Help Dany to gain the throne and then head back home. Denounce any claim you might have and find a nice northern girl to marry. Preferably one with which your blood line doesn’t intersect with for at least 3 or 4 generations......the Realm will thank you for it.
Another tidbit about Jon. During the victory feast, Tormund loudly brings up that Jon was killed but wouldn’t stay dead. The Northerners are a superstition lot yet no one has a weird reaction to this? The overall reaction is not one of awe or fear, more like “May I have more wine?” or “ the salt please”.

Dany. Oh Dany, what can I say? I love you and your dragons. Sorry dragon, no plurals apply here anymore. You have enlisted a good team along with some smart men as advisors. Therein may be the problem with her team. All of them have severely underestimated Cersie and her team. Once you found out from Jamie that Cersie lied about sending her armies North perhaps a tad more investigation as to exactly how Cersie was preparing to defeat Dany was warranted. Jamie might not have had the full story but Tyrion, Varys and Sansa should have been able to surmise what Cersie might be up to.
So far, Dany has received sage advice from women that could have put all of this behind her and allowed her to take the throne. Ellaria Sand told her to storm Kings Landing. Sansa told her never to trust Cersie. Let us not forget the words of the Queen of Thorns, Olenna Tyrell, when she said “be a dragon”. Please follow Olenna’s advice. Ignore all these men and honor Missandei by being a dragon and burning them all. Be as some have called you - “ Aegon with teats” and unite the realm or what is left of the ashes. Burn most of them, they don’t deserve you.....
If you want to forge a marriage alliance, Gendry is available. He just might be able to kick start those cursed ovaries because that seed is strong......

Comments (30)
Why is gendry’s seed strong? Lmfao
Because he is a Baratheon....
Reply to: One With No Name
Okay thanks I don’t read books and I only vaguely this being mentioned once in the show that the seed is strong in baratheons lol
They didn’t need to have Jon with a penis in charge, what they needed to do was have dany come to her senses and treat Jon as her equal when ruling the 7 kingdoms together with two iron thrones and then have a cave of dragon eggs found as it is revealed dany is Prego with Jon’s kid and then they could eventually make a new series with that kid grown up and maybe just after Jon and dany die and the kid would be the king or queen of 7 kingdoms or something like that lol
I’m low key tired of all this bs that Arya and especially dany fall into this pit of stupidity just because they want to show how powerful they can be, I get it, you are tough girls, but they should have been able to rise above the stereotypes set up by the cruel world they lived in, Arya had the chance to marry gendry who would treat her right and if she would have told him I’m not wearing any dresses even at our wedding and I don’t want to be called lady then gendry would have still wanted to marry her, he loved her for who she is and not simply to be able to call her his lady, there are plenty other sweet things he could have called her that Arya would have been more comfortable with, as for dany, she is angry not that she found out Jon is her nephew, but because he has better claim to throne than her...this pisses me off, don’t let this ruin your relationship with Jon if u still love him make a replica iron throne next to yours so you can rule with Jon side by side as equals and put an end to the ugly stereotypes swept throughout the realm that a king should have more authority than the queen, it should be equal and they should both respect eachother’s wisdom and make decisions as rulers together
Me through the whole episode when the Northeners are still acting like she’s a foreigner who doesn’t deserve their trust and loyalty: WHAT ELSE IS SHE SUPPOSED TO DO FOR YOU PEOPLE
Reply to: Rhaenys Stark
Exactly ! And Sansa would Jon - no matter his genetic parents are - he is a Stark and a Northerner.
Reply to: One With No Name
Sansa didn’t Jon and respect his decisions when she went back on her word to him to not tell anyone that he found out he was dany’s nephew
Reply to: KareBearKarrotKakez
You’re right, mate
Nice Post Tia i :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :+1: :heart:
, but I had to step in because of some comments about my “precious” Sansa
1st the idea about “but not considering a marriage alliance that would provide the North with the next best thing to total freedom “
Let’s forward a little and see discussion between Tyrion and Varys in the boat , Tyrion suggested political marriage, Varys replys was “ is marrying your aunt a common in the North? Tyrion shakes his head
Meaning that this life line aren’t available in the show , we know as book readers Starks married their cousins (which are different than marriage between sister brother fathers daughter s, aunt , nephew until now in some Countries and Religion cousins marriage are legally )
So Sansa didn’t thought about “ next best thing “ because it’s not something the North will agree on
it’s not available because D&D didn’t use Starks cousins life line as a reply from Tyrion to Varys or Varys didn’t that Starks married their cousins
2- she did show gratitude to Dany in their discussion alone she told her I should thank you , but did Dany show respect for the Northern personality when Sansa asked What about the North?
Because what back stabbing you are talking about ? Looking / planning for what best for the North ? Dany before BoWF mention the Throne about 5 times , after the Battle she back to her plan to take the throne, So what wrong that Sansa in doing the same looking for what best for the North
On last thing what you mean by Burn them all ? Red keep , Westeros, Cersei how about small folks in red keep and Westeros??
Reply to: One With No Name
I agree :100:
Reply to: KareBearKarrotKakez
Well trust me Now Jon know what exactly Arya and Sansa warn him from , for sure after KL Burning he wish he did listen to Arya and Sansa
Reply to: :wolf: ⚔ :fire: LeaderDaddy :fire: ⚔ :wolf:
Okay Sansa opening her mouth on what she swore to Jon she would keep secret is what ultimately led to all that, I’m not saying dany was right in doing what she did, I’m just saying Sansa never trusted her or appreciated all dany did for the north, I guess the show’s writers wanted to show dany losing her mind but I feel they could have went so many better directions for her character and the end, maybe we could have even seen dany giving full dominion over the north to Sansa once dany took iron throne if only Sansa kept her mouth shut about Jon’s parentage